Youre very young. What if we stood up with our synapses and flesh and said, No. But its about more than that. And Im not sure Ive had a conversation across all these years that was a more unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief. Krista Tippett has spent more than a decade exploring important questions of life, questions that often involve faith, science and spirituality on her popular radio program and podcast, "On Being." So would you read, its called Before, page 46. I think its very dangerous not to have hope. Jen Bailey, and so many of you. I think there are things we all learned also. Im learning so many different ways to be quiet. Once it has been witnessed Just the title of this, I feel is such an invitation and not the kind of invitation that was being made. And the next one is Dead Stars. Which follows a little bit in terms of how do we live in this time of catastrophe that also calls us to rise and to learn and to evolve. And the Sonoma Coast is a really special place in terms of how its been preserved and protected throughout the years. And here was something that was so well crafted and people to this day will say its one of the most expert villanelles ever written its so well crafted, and yet it doesnt actually offer any answers. Where some of you were like, Eww, as soon as I said it. I will trust the world and I will feel at peace. And this time, what came to me as I stood and looked at the trees was that Oh, it isnt just me looking. Too high for most of us with the rockets Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. [laughs] And I think Id just like to end with a few more poems. just the bottlebrush alive Tippett: So the poem you wrote, Joint Custody. You get asked to read it. And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course. I mean, isnt this therapeutic also for us all to laugh about this now, also to know that we can laugh about it now? Because how do we care for one another? And so I think my investigation or my curiosity is not so much talking about poetry, but about where poetry comes from in us and what poetry works in us. And also that phrase, as Ive aged. You say that a lot and I would like to tell you that you have a lot more aging to do. I never go there very much anymore. I cannot reverse it, the record, chaotic track. We just ask questions. Sometimes it sounds, sometimes its image, sometimes its a note from a friend with the word lover. of age. We want to meet what is hard and hurting. nest rigged high in the maple. I write. has lost everything, when its not a weapon, when it flickers, when it folds up so perfectly, you can keep it until its needed, until you can, love it again, until the song in your mouth feels, like sustenance, a song where the notes are sung. This conversation shines a light on an emerging ecosystem in our world over and against the drumbeat of what is fractured and breaking: working with the complex fullness of reality, and cultivating old and new ways of seeing, to move towards a transformative wholeness of living. And I think when were talking about this, were talking about who we are right now, because were all carrying this. And I kept thinking how I missed all my family, and I missed my father and his wife, and I missed my mother and stepfather. Nov 28, 2022. Tippett: So I love it when I feel like the conversations Im having start to be in conversation with each other. reading skills. You should take a nap.. Yet it is a deep truth in life as in science that each of us is shaped as much by the quality of the questions we are asking as by the answers we have it in us to give. And then what we find in the second poem is a kind of evolution. Yes I am. But I trust those moments. And there was an ease, I think, that living in the head-only world was kind of a poets dream on some level. Yet whats most stunning is how presciently and exquisitely Ocean spoke, and continues to speak, to the world we have since come to inhabit its heartbreak and its poetry, its possibilities for loss and for finding new life. rolling their trash bins out, after all of this is over? And I wonder if you think about your teenage self, who fell in love with poetry. [laughs]. Limn: Yeah. Okay. And so its giving room to have those failures be a breaking open and for someone else to stand in it and bring whatever they want to it. Tippett: And I also just wondered if that experience of loving sound and the cadence of this language that was yours and not yours, if that also flowed into this love of poetry. And then you can also be like, Im a little anxious about this thing thats happening next week. Or all of these things, it makes room for all of those things. Theres also how I stand in the field across from the street, thats another way because Im farther from people and therefore more likely to be alone. Discoveries about the gut microbiome, for example, and the gut-brain axis; the fascinating vagus nerve and the power of the neurotransmitters we hear about in piecemeal ways in discussions around mental health. Its the thing that keeps us alive. Too high for most of us with the rockets. We havent read much from The Carrying, which is a wonderful book. What. Limn: Yeah. In fact, Krista interviewed the wise and wonderful Ocean Vuong right on the cusp of that turning, in March 2020, in a joyful and crowded room full of podcasters in Brooklyn. We offer it here as an audio experience, and we think you will enjoy being in the room retroactively. So I think there was a lot of, not only was it music, but then it was music in Spanish. So its actually about fostering yourself in the sun, in the right place, creating the right habitat. And this poem was basically a list of all the poems I didnt think I could write, because it was the early days of the pandemic, and I kept thinking, just that poetry had kind of given up on me, I guess. So I feel like the last one Id like for you to read for us is A New National Anthem, which you read at your inauguration as Poet Laureate. And I was feeling very isolated. Tippett: Look at all these people. Black bark, slick yellow leaves, a kind of stillness that feels, We point out the stars that make Orion as we take out. [laughter] I was so fascinated when I read the earlier poem. with a new hosta under the main feeder. And this is about your childhood, right? So it felt right to listen again to one of our most beloved shows of this post-2020 world. And I knew that at 15. for it again, the hazardous Winters icy hand at the back of all of us. And we all have this, our childhood stories. And I know that when I discovered it for myself as a teenager that I thought, Oh, this is more like music where its like something is expressing itself to you and you are expressing yourself to it. s wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. Tippett: Something I remember reading is that you grew up in an English-speaking household, but your paternal grandfather spoke Spanish and that you just loved to listen to him. Interesting. Its almost romantic as we adjust the waxy blue and the world. Starting Thursday, February 2: three months of soaring new On Being conversations, with an eye towards emergence. I was actually born at home. joy, foundational, that brief kinship of hold We hold each other. This is not a problem. Theres whole books about how to breathe. Talk about any of the limits of language, the failure of language. So Im hoping. Tippett: Im really glad youre enjoying it because theres many more decades. Groundbreaking Peabody Award-winning conversation about the big questions of meaning, hosted by Krista Tippett. Mosaque Liste Walking in Wonder Eternal Wisdom for a Modern World - ebook (ePub) John Quinn . Thank you all for coming. Limn: I think its definitely a writing prompt too, right? Enough of osseous and chickadee and sunflower In all kinds of lives, in all kinds of places, they are healers and social creatives. Limn: Yeah, I had a moment where I hadnt realized how delighted I was to go about my world without my body. Oh, Im stressed. Oh, if you want to know about stress, let me tell you, Im stressed., I like to tell my friends when they say theyre really stressed, Ill be like, Oh, I took the most wonderful nap. when Stephen Colbert was doing the earlier show, and he had this one skit where he said, I love breathing, I could do it all day long., And I always think about that because of course, its so ironic that we have to think about our breath. Ada Limn. Limn: Yeah. She is a former host of the poetry podcast, The Slowdown, and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. Learn more at kalliopeia.org. Tippett: And then a trauma of the pandemic was that our breathing became a danger to strangers and beloveds. And you also wrote about that, and you also wrote this essay. I think we all came a little bit more alive. [2] Her guests include the 14th Dalai Lama, Maya Angelou, Mohammed Fairouz, Desmond Tutu, Thich Nhat Hanh, Rosanne Cash, Wangari Maathai, Yo-Yo Ma, Paulo Coehlo . And we all have this, our childhood stories. And actually, it seemed to me that your marriage was in fine shape. We meet longings for justice and healing by equipping for reflection, repair, and joy. , its woven through everything. And I know that when I discovered it for myself as a teenager that I thought, Oh, this is more like music where its like something is expressing itself to you and you are expressing yourself to it. Unknown. Every week: practices and goodies to accompany your listen. Its still the elements. Yeah. is a murderous light, so strong. And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course, Enough of us across all of our differences see that we have a world to remake. And isnt it strange that breathing is something that we have to get better at? fact-like take the trowel, plant the limp body Why are all these blank spaces? It has silence built all around it. Limn: And I would just have these whole moments when people would be like, Oh, and then well meet in person. And I was like, [sharp breath] I dont want you to witness my body. We prioritize busyness. And I knew that at 15. This means that I am in a reciprocal relationship with the natural world, not that it is my job to be the poet that goes and says, Tree, I will describe it to you.. body. So I love it when I feel like the conversations Im having start to be in conversation with each other. But in the present era of tribalism, it feels like weve reached our collective limitations Again and again, we have escalated the conflict and snuffed the complexity out of the conversation.. I live in the low parts now, most And yet at the same time, I do feel like theres this Its so much power in it. cigarette smoke or expertise in recipes or Tippett: Right. So would you read, its called Before, page 46. Woodworking and the meaning of life. lover, come back to the five-and-dime. And Im sure it does for many of you, where you start to think about a phrase or a word comes to you and youre like, Is that a word? Youre like, With. One of the most popular episodes in the history of "On Being," the 15-year-old public-radio program hosted by the honey-voiced Krista Tippett, is a conversation Tippett had more than ten years ago with the late Irish poet and philosopher John O'Donohue on the subject of the inner landscape of beauty. I mean, even that question you asked, What am I supposed to do with all that silence? Thats one way to talk about the challenge of being human and walking through a life. So I think were going to just have a lot of poetry tonight. Page 40. cigarette smoke or expertise in recipes or, reading skills. Yeah. I love that you do this. Learn more at. This definitely speaks to that. us, still right now, a softness like a worn fabric of a nightshirt. Find them at, Dedicated to reconnecting ecology, culture, and spirituality. people could point to us with the arrows they make in their minds. I just saw her. Limn: Yeah. On Being with Krista Tippett. And I am so thrilled to have this conversation with Ada Limn to be part of our first season. Limn: Yeah. to lean in the spotlight of streetlight with you, toward I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape. Precisely at a moment like this, of vast aching open questions and very few answers we can agree on, our questions themselves become powerful tools for living and growing. the ego and the obliteration of ego, enough That its not my neighborhood, and they look beautiful. song. red helmet, I rode And both parents all four of my parents, I should say would point those things out, that special quality of connectedness that the natural world offers us. For her voice of insistent honesty and wholeness and wisdom and joyfulness. I think there was also he also was a singer, so he would just sing. And I think most poets are drawn to that because it feels like what were always trying to do is say something that cant always entirely be said, even in the poem, even in the completed poem. And were at a new place, but we have to carry and process that. and enough of the pointing to the world, weary And whats good for my body and my mental health. All of those things. And I also just wondered if that experience of loving sound and the cadence of this language that was yours and not yours, if that also flowed into this love of poetry. Well, a lot of us I think are still a little agoraphobic. Nov 19, 2022, 8:00pm PST. BOB ABERNETHY, anchor: We have a profile today of Krista Tippett, the host of the weekly public radio conversation "Speaking of Faith," which won a Peabody Award this week. And coming in future weeks, is a conversation with a technologist and artist named James Bridle, whose point is that language itself, the sounds we made and the words we finally formed, and the imagery and the metaphors were all primally, organically rooted in the natural world of which we were part. Sometimes it feels like language and poetry, I often start with sounds. And you could so a lot of what he knew in Spanish and remembered in Spanish were songs. How to make that more vibrant, more visible, and more defining? And the Sonoma Coast is a really special place in terms of how its been preserved and protected throughout the years. Yeah, Ive got a lot of feelings moving through me. Out here, theres a bowing even the trees are doing. The original idea, when we say like our, thesis statement, or even when we say like. Thats such a wonderful question. And the one Id love you to read is Not the Saddest Thing in the World. This is the one where I felt like theres subtlety to it, but you just named so much in there. like the flag, how it undulates in the wind So its a very special place. And then in this moment it was we cared for each other by being apart. I think there was also he also was a singer, so he would just sing. So maybe just to use a natural world metaphor to just dip our toes into the water, would you read Sanctuary? And when so much of the natural world was burned, and I kept thinking about all the trees and the birds and the wildlife. Limn: There was a bit of like, Eww, lover. [laughter], Easy light storms in through the window, soft I feel like that between space, that liminal space, is a place where we were living for so long, and many of us still living in that between space of, How do I go into the world safely, and how do I move through the world with safety and care-take myself and care-take others. And he had a little cage, I would make sure he was And he would get bundled up and carried from house to house. A special offering from Krista Tippett and all of us at On Being: an incredible, celebratory event listening back and remembering forwards across 20 years of this show in the good company of our beloved friend and former guest, Rev. We are fluent in the story of our time marked by catastrophe and dysfunction. And it was this moment of like, Oh, this is abundance. And for us, it was Sundays. All year, in an oblivion-is-coming sort of way. Its Spanish and English, and Im trying, and Ill look at him and be like, How much degrees is it?, And hes like, Are you trying to ask me what the weather is?. It was interesting to me to realize how people turned to you in pandemic because of who you are, it sounds like. When you open the page, theres already silence. Its the , Limn: We literally. And its a very interesting thing to be a kid that goes back and forth, and Im sure many people have this experience or have had that experience, where youre moving from one home to another. SHARE. Copyright 2023, And if youd like to know more, we suggest you start with our. Ive got a bone. Articles by Krista Tippett on Muck Rack. And the one Id love you to read is Not the Saddest Thing in the World. This is the one where I felt like theres subtlety to it, but you just named so much in there. And the next one is Dead Stars. Which follows a little bit in terms of how do we live in this time of catastrophe that also calls us to rise and to learn and to evolve. Between the ground and the feast is where I live now. That really spoke to me, on my sofa. for the safety of others, for earth, And even as it relieves us of the need to sum everything up. And I think Id just like to end with a few more poems. of the kneeling and the rising and the looking We are located on Dakota land. recycling bin until you say, Man, we should really learn Its repeating words. squeal with the idea of blissful release, oh lover. Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. I have, before, been, tricked into believing Yeah, I was convinced. The podcast's foundation is the same as the groundbreaking radio concept. Few books have been more eagerly passed from hand to hand with delight in these last years than Robin Wall Kimmerers Braiding Sweetgrass. And so I have "On Being," a weekly interview show about the mysteries of human existence, hosted by Krista Tippett, airs on nearly 400 public radio stations, with more than half a million weekly listeners . Okay, Im going to give you some choices. Why dont you read The Quiet Machine? And I knew immediately that it was a love poem and a loss poem. But he is driven by passionate callings older and deeper than his public vocation as an actor and comedian. You boiled it down. But I love it. Limn: Yes. And it is definitely wine country and all of the things that go along with that. I grew up in Glen Ellen in Sonoma, California, born and raised. Kalliopeia Foundation. Yeah. And its page six of. But let me say, I was taken, back and forth on Sundays and it was not easy, but I was loved each place. But I also feel a little bit out of practice with this live event thing. what a word, what a world, this gray waiting. No, theres so much to enjoy. We point out the stars that make Orion as we take out She trained as a doctor in a generation that understood death as a failure of medicine. Its wonderful. Im so excited for your tenure representing poetry and representing all of us, and Im excited that you have so many more years of aging and writing and getting wiser ahead, and we got to be here at this early stage. Her presence on that stage was electric. Join our weekly ritual of a newsletter, The Pause, delivered to your inbox every Saturday morning. Tippett: You see what I did? for the water to stop shivering out of the And if I had to condense you as a poet into a couple of words, I actually think youre about and these are words you use also wholeness and balance. I was actually born at home. I want to say first of all, how happy I am to be doing something with Milkweed, which I have known since I moved to Minnesota, I dont know, over a quarter century ago, to be this magnificent but quiet, local publisher. Do you remember the Colbert Report when Stephen Colbert was doing the earlier show, and he had this one skit where he said, I love breathing, I could do it all day long. [laughter] And I always think about that because of course, its so ironic that we have to think about our breath. And also that notion and these are other things you said that poetry recognizes our wholeness. Theres a lot of different People. a need to nestle deep into the safekeeping of sky. hoping our team wins. two brains now. Tippett: Yeah. Right. I could. Tippett: And you have said that you fell in love with poetry in high school. [Laughter] I feel like I could hear that response, right? Tippett: Because I couldnt decide which ones I wanted you to read. I mean, I do right now. There is also an ordinary and abundant unfolding of dignity and care and generosity, of social creativity and evolution and breakthrough. And so its giving room to have those failures be a breaking open and for someone else to stand in it and bring whatever they want to it. We can forget this. The bright side is not talked about. There is so much actionable knowledge in the tour of the ecosystem of our bodies that Kimberley Wilson takes us on this hour. and over against the ground, sometimes. Wisdom Practices and Digital Retreats (Coming in 2023). 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