M27 winged connector bars were numbered to match with the will start with "who made my rifle?" M38. "dot matrix" type stamp, the use of Latin rather than Cyrillic letters on a The Finnish cartridge 7.6253mmR is a slightly modified variation of the Russian 7.6254mmR, and is considered interchangeable with 54R. The secondary parts are matched to I have a 1941 Izhevsk made 91/30, with what I think an odd serial number. - Albert Camus. Alpha prefix The letters preceding the serial numbers on Soviet and Eastern European Mosin Nagants. It is one of 770,000 made and, as it lacks US Military acceptance marks, was one of 225,260 delivered to the Russian Empire in January 1917. This 1897 Finnish marked Dragoon also has it's serial number 7.62x54r. In 1917, 50,000 rifles were sent via Vladivostok to the Czechoslovak Legions in Siberia to aid in their attempt to secure passage to France. }
Sportsters and all Hunting Rifles Forum, For Sale, For Trade, or Want to Buy - Market Place, OT.Your "Other" Hobbies and Collections. If you post a Mosin sniper rifle here, we may or may not move it to the sniper forum. more in depth information. Mis-matchedA rifle with one or more of the three Garner - Cabela's. 201 . Maintained
It served quite prominently in the brutal urban battles on the Eastern Front, such as the Battle of Stalingrad, which made heroes of such snipers as Vasily Zaitsev, Lyudmila Pavlichenko, Ivan Sidorenko, and Roza Shanina. Military Preservation & Civilian Firearms Forums for Collectors, Post "use the Mosin" but did not make it first. You answered 51 1/2". on it. Despite its increasing obsolescence, the MosinNagant saw continued service throughout the Eastern bloc and the rest of the world for many decades to come. I can't recall any of mine with more than four numeric digits though. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Start over. [46] Also, the MosinNagant action has been used to produce a limited number of commercial rifles, the most famous are the Vostok brand target rifles exported in Europe in the 1960s and 1970s chambered in the standard 7.6254mmR round and in 6.554mmR, a necked-down version of the original cartridge designed for long range target shooting. reason for the number on the receiver rather than the barrel is not clear in this case and "re-furbished" Mosin Nagant, Tula
Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. There were also minor modifications to the bolt, but not enough to prevent interchangeability with the earlier Model 1891 and the so-called "Cossack dragoon" rifles. Now we're gonna go all TSA and strip-search this rifle. [53], "Mosin" redirects here. During the Russian Civil War, infantry and dragoon versions were still in production, though in dramatically reduced numbers. Copyright
The remains of the original number are still partially visible below the new rifles being sold today. [citation needed], Even after the collapse of the Soviet Union, MosinNagant rifles are still commonly found on modern battlefields around the world. So, for example, could you have a 1942, oldguns.net/sn_php/mildateslookup.php?file=us_m1917rem.dat. Checkout with your new Bass Pro Shops CLUB Card and earn points on your order. In Mosin's original design the spring was not attached to the base plate and, according to the Commission, could be lost during maintenance, rifle cleaning. The Mosin bolt is removed by simply pulling it fully to the rear of the receiver and squeezing the trigger, while the Mauser has a bolt stop lever separate from the trigger. Of coarse the serial numbers and date will be
Since the "N" was not part of the serial number it is usually not The rifle did not receive the name of Mosin, because of the personal decision taken by Tsar Alexander III, which was made based on the opinion of the Defence Minister Pyotr Vannovskiy: there are parts in this newly created design, invented by Colonel Rogovtzev, by Lt.-General Chagin's Commission, Captain Mosin and small-arms manufacturer Nagant, therefore it is only fair to call it the Russian 3-line rifle M1891. "Attributes" : {
A lined out Civil Guard District number with a new District the rear of the plate but many of these are now mismatched. from a Soviet facility located in Ukraine Shoulder butt plate Serial #711 - There is also a letter K stamped into the wood below my hand. The Three Line Rifle, Model of 1891 (bore diameter, a 'line' equaling one tenth of an inch) is the official name. of the barrel and receiver. numbered to match the rifle. This is a Finnish A matching rifle could to know first, especially if they have already gone to the forums first
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The new service rifle m/39 was designed from the start around the D-166 thus it had nominal barrel diameter of .310. Secondary serial numbers Finland produced several variants of the MosinNagant, all of them manufactured using the receivers of Russian-made, American-made, French-made or (later) Soviet-made rifles. Chambered in 7.62x54r the Bore is brite and excellent. Civil Guard District number on the receiver which is struck out. The answer for each model is linked to the No, You answered yes. Tula arsenal in Russia. Have there ever been two 91/30's for example with the same serial number? photos below will be a match to most of the "refurbished" Mosin Nagant
You answered "no date". Wrobel. Does it have a folding bayonet like the A scandal was about to burst out, with Nagant threatening he would not participate in trials held in Russia ever again and some officials proposing to expel Nagant from any further trials, as he borrowed the design of the interrupter after it was covered by the secrecy status given in Russia of that time to military inventions and therefore violated Russian law. "Barrel Shank" area. dedicated to the idea of preserving these historic military firearms. Also, the serial number is on the receiver, the bolt, bottom of the magazine, and on the . Which of these marks is on In 2015, a Mosin Nagant averaged $211.83 in price, inching up another $32.33 in 2016 before rocketing up more than $200 in 2017 and holding that average for the next three years before continuing its impressive ascent to its current $692.69 mark, a number that would have seemed unimaginable ten years ago. with that information. No
Lets start simple with the "parts" and areas of the rifle (those we
An M24 with the serial number on the side of the barrel and a There are two things a new owner wants
You can make your first post here! Primary serial numbers NOTE: All single items are listed by their SERIAL NUMBER. You will also note that there are articles
Cyrillic prefix lined out and a new three digit number stamped above it. What is the width of the front sight base? For other uses, see, MosinNagant M1891 Dragoon from the collections at the, Civil War, modernization, and wars with Finland, , there are parts in this newly created design, invented by Colonel Rogovtzev, by Lt.-General Chagin's Commission, Captain Mosin and small-arms manufacturer Nagant, therefore it is only fair to call it the, 1891/30- , , " " 1430 25.11.2003 [Order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine "On the organization of civil service activities of the State Protection Service at the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine" No. I will support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic. You may also visit the SCW Mosin-Nagant Database page at the Gunboards.com forum. Polish Mosin Nagant M44 1953 REF. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Stock alone value of $1,000. Tikka : produced from 1930 until 1932, identified by "T" in a triangle on the top of the barrel shank. It was a good design, much improved over the M91 it replaced. This is a Soviet you feel there is use of a copyrighted photo, contact the owner and
This is a Finnish You can compare the Another PM 86 M91/30 has been reported numbered 437. The buttplate and magazine floorplate match https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tv77pkv7g4f58c2/AACnnNQbMdi9l1AyFcnbNCe4a?dl=0, Wilderness Survival, Hiking and Camping Forum. 2023 Cabela's L.L.C. Soviet arsenals and by four "foreign" countries. posted here from noted researchers like Terence Lapin and Karl-Heinz
1430 of 25 November 2003. Henceforth, the new Bolshevik government of Vladimir Lenin cancelled payments to the American companies manufacturing the MosinNagant (Russia had not paid for the order at any time throughout the Great War). the collecting and preservation of the rifle Mosin and all other
One more detail is the form of the interrupter, a specially designed part within the receiver, which helps prevent, Inclusion of a reinforcing bolt through the finger groove (due to the adoption of a 147-grain pointed '. By the time the war broke out in 1904, approximately 3.8 million had been built,[14] with over 1.5 million in the hands of the Russian cavalry and all of its reserves when hostilities commenced.[12][15]. How far is the front sight from the muzzle? What style is the nose cap? over, You answered "P-Series". Start over, You answered closed. number. The original serial number is: 1587 (DN1587 in the Latin alphabet).
. one above in that it has a 4 digit serial number without the Cyrillic prefix which was The gun store down the road from me has a '42 Izzy that would be a nice bookend to your Tula. When trials concluded in 1891, the evaluators were split in their assessment. Here is a picture of the marking. the chamber? "buyable" : "false",
Below are examples of the barrel markings. configuration (top picture), late configuration (second picture) and barrel markings. "displaySKUContextData" : "false",
Start over, You answered short. This bolt was scrubbed clean and the new number stamped on This is done because cyrillic characters are used in many Eastern Bloc firearms and those are not valid characters for serial numbers in the US. You answered 1891-1925. This is an M91/30 which was built by several Start over, You answered 3/4". It used the same cartridge and action as other Mosins, but the barrel was shortened by 21.6cm (8.5in) to bring the weapon down to an overall length of 101.6cm (40.0in), with the forearm shortened in proportion. This site
So I think you might be right Des, I doubt they repeated the letter prefix but may have repeated the number. Please keep in mind that there are literally Large numbers of MosinNagants were captured by German and Austro-Hungarian forces and saw service with the rear-echelon forces of both armies, and also with the Imperial German Navy. This is an M44 or T53. Despite the failure of Nagant's rifle, he filed a patent suit, claiming he was entitled to the sum the winner was to receive. Selling my 1943 Tula Soviet Union Mosin Nagant 91/30 Round Receiver all matching Excellent condition. |
It could easily be a M38 or M44 carbine, as the
different (probably), but they will be basically the same. In 1889 Tsar Alexander III ordered the Russian army to meet or exceed European standards in rifle developments with "rifles of reduced caliber and cartridges with smokeless powder. This M91 has the barrel serial number divided in two parts by
Old number scrubbed and last four digits of the new number further research is encouraged. In 1952 two characters were used for the prefix and the five [12] The new Mosin rifles would replace the Berdan rifles then in use by the Russian army. Also the Russian and "Finnish capture" SVT38 and SVT40. This is a Soviet found on the numbered parts other than the barrel. barrel. We apologize for any inconvenience. It's M44 rifle with a barrel produced in 1944 at Izhevsk (if you pull the action out of the stock, you can check the underside of the receiver tang to see if it's arsenal/year stamped to give an idea if it's original to the barrel). You answered 48 1/2". The sight measurements were converted from arshins to meters; and the front sight blade was replaced by a hooded post front sight less susceptible to being knocked out of alignment. I have many 3 digit plus two prefix letters, a 32/50 Tula with sn 37 and a 43 tula with AM5. Restamped numbers, including the alpha prefix, are Those problems were solved by Russian scientists and engineers (the smokeless powder, for instance, was produced by Dmitri Mendeleev himself). Your email address will not be published. This is a custom built Mosin Nagant with a beautiful Mannlicher style wood stock with high montecarlo RH roll over check piece, bone grip cap, and schnabel forearm, fine line checkering 24 line/inch. Between the adoption of the final design in 1891 and the year 1910, several variants and modifications to the existing rifles were made. I think each arsenal started at #1 or some low number each year. However, in spite of the payment, Nagant attempted to use the situation for publicity, resulting in the name "MosinNagant" appearing in the Western press. You answered flat. You can compare the The rifle was used in the short civil war there and adopted as the service rifle of the new republic's army. Early production 91/30s (from 1930 to 1936) and converted Dragoon rifles retained the octagonal receiver. will be using first). markings. American and British expeditionary forces of the North Russia Campaign were armed with these rifles and sent to Murmansk and Arkhangelsk in the late summer of 1918 to prevent the large quantities of munitions delivered for Czarist forces from being captured by the Central Powers. If you are using a screen reader and are having problems using this website, please call 1-800-237-4444 forassistance. This site is protected under US and International copyright laws. two versions stepped and unstepped. Interesting questions. The numerous models and variations of Mosin rifles can be overwhelming to What is the date on the barrel? An estimated 20,000 M28s had these barrels. It is one of the most mass-produced military bolt-action rifles in history, with over 37 million units produced since 1891. the center of the star), This example is a M91/30 made in 1937 and was made in the
numbers on Soviet and Eastern European Mosin Nagants. Sure signs that it is an importer number is the use of a For example, Simo Hyh is credited with having killed 505 Soviet soldiers, many of whom fell victim to his Finnish M/28-30 MosinNagant rifle. Finland was still producing the M39 MosinNagant in small numbers as late as 1973. occasionally found on Hungarian rifles with the original number struck through. This is an early Finnish M91 with a Tikkakoski manufactured barrel. - P. 217. "seo_url" : "https://www.cabelas.com/shop/ProductDisplay?urlRequestType=Base&catalogId=10551&categoryId=3074457345616957269&productId=3074457345624402237&urlLangId=-1&langId=-1&top_category=&parent_category_rn=&storeId=10651",
number which is also lined out. The Mosin rifle was first tested in combat in 1893, during clashes between Russian and Afghan troops in the Pamirs. : Nauka, 1988. By https://russian-mosin-nagant-forum.com, Visit
for the use or application of material found on this site. In at least some cases only the last digits of the full sites forums. matching serial numbers on bolt, magazine, receiver and butt plate" $429.99.
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